Article 2. MY EXPERIENCE WITH RAW MEAT AND RAW FISH DIET

— renewed and edited on January 05, 2019 —

11 May, 2018

The mainly raw meat and raw fish zero carb diet (MFZC) is the last diet I tested. I have been testing and eating it from April 2016 to the present time. Before MFZC I have tested: raw meat/fish and fruits diet; raw meat/fish, fruits and green vegetable juices diet; raw vegan diet and some other diets. I have tested these diets for at least 1 year each except the raw vegan diet. The raw vegan diet had a bad influence on my health and I stopped it in half a year.

Who can use the raw MFZC and other raw ZC diets

The raw ZC diet can be used by every adult who wants to help themselves to cure their own diseases and live without diseases, normalize weight, be healthy, feel alive, have clear mind, better memory, concentration and better cognitive abilities during  lifetime including old age.

If you have weak immunity, serious or incurable diseases especially in old age, for you it’s definitely preferable to be under the supervision of a qualified doctor who knows about healing abilities of ZC and raw ZC diets. Also, if you are not sure what kind of diet to choose, you may start from using the cooked ZC (for reference:  https://www.facebook.com/groups/PrincipiaCarnivora/) first during half a year and after switch to raw ZC diet as a more natural, healthy and easier to digest diet. Nowadays for many children and small kids the same restrictions and choice are preferable as well.

Adaptation

The MFZC diet may have a period of adaptation like other ZC diets. Information about some symptoms you may experience during the adaptation can be read here: https://zerocarbzen.com/adaptation/. My adaptation lasted 3-4 months. I had night muscle cramps, brain fog and diarrhea that lasted about two months (up to 4-6 times a day at the beginning).

I stopped the diarrhea by drinking a glass of cranberry juice daily during the 2 days (one quarter glass frozen cranberry and 3 quarters with water – all blended together in a powerful blender). The diarrhea stopped completely but returned after about a week for a few days. The diarrhea was gone without using the cranberry juice again and I didn’t  have it during for a very long time. …Sometimes some wild carnivores eat sour berries but still nobody took the challenge to check what was wrong with their condition before they ate the berries.

Don’t be afraid of diarrhea or constipation during adaptation if you stay on only ZC raw food and only pure water.

Our tastes are changeable. If the intestinal microflora changes, the tastes can change as well.

When you start to eat only raw MFZC diet (if you decide to try)

A purpose of this part of the article is to prevent you from mistakes that were made by many people including me at  the start of raw ZC diet and also to decrease your possible suffering during adaptation.

At the beginning when you start to eat only raw MFZC food you can protect yourself from parasites and pathogens by buying products from reliable sources at least for half a year. Also exclude experiments of eating eggs (https://www.thepaleomom.com/whys-behind-autoimmune-protocol-eggs/) and dairy (http://www.diagnosisdiet.com/food/dairy/) to prevent possible allergic reactions. Dairy and eggs are hormonal food and influence on many body and brain functions (see ‘Test on butter’ and ‘Test on eggs’ in Article 4)

It’s best to cut your raw fish and raw meat previously, freeze it at least for a few days and then thaw its daily portion out during 0.5-1 day in the refrigerator before eating it. This is a precaution to kill any parasites.

Also it’s better do not eat organs at least during adaptation. Organs have many nutrition, vitamins and minerals but they often collect more toxins than muscle meat, especially the organs of old animals living in polluted environment (see more detailed information in the beginning of Article 5).

You can decrease the symptoms of adaptation if you divide your daily potion of meat or fish into 3-5 small portions because your stomach still doesn’t excrete enough of stomach acid and the acid is still not strong enough for efficient digestion of a large amount of meat or fish.

Many people have additional health problems and hard adaptation because they mix raw and cooked food. They are very different, for example compare raw and boiled eggs. Raw and cooked food digest differently, taking different times and can be digested by different kinds of  intestinal microflora.  So due to unpredictable results it’s not a good idea if you continue to use some of your favorite cooked food and/or beverages (see ‘Beverages‘ in Article 4) instead of only pure water (see ‘Distilled water‘ below). Your stomach isn’t a pot where you can brew whatever you want without changing the metabolic processes. Also you may drink as much water as you want but do not drink during eating and drink after 2-3 hours of eating food.

If favorite cooked food and beverages are one of your main life priorities, you don’t want to live without diseases but yet you want to be just more healthy, you may return partly to cooked food and beverages after the period of adaptation to raw ZC food. It’s definitively better if you do not mix raw and cooked food and eat them separately at the different time.

If you’ll have long lasting (more than 3 days) constipation, it can be a reaction on the lack of water or/and fat in your meat or fish. Also it can be if you mix raw and cooked food, drink beverages, use salt, spices, supplements, eat eggs or/and dairy.

If it’s possible, stay away from enemas or colonics. You interrupt the normal body functionality and create a custom to do it permanently. Evolutionally your body is self-adjusting and more ancient and wise than a part of brain related to ‘progressive’ thinking.

During this half year your stomach acid will become stronger and its ability to kill parasites and dangerous pathogens will be increased. Your body will be cleaned from collected toxins built up mostly from plant and/or cooked food and some collected by-products are usually created during cooking. So later you can not worry about pathogens (see Article 5) and parasites (see Article 3). They will not live or stay in your body for a long time.

Also it’s better when you first start this way of eating to not use ground meat due to the bad effects it has on digestion (see ‘Testing the size of meat pieces for eating’ below). Moreover it may be dangerous too according to my experience. Too many pathogens may be in the ground raw meat and they will come into your stomach still having weak acid, reproduce and initiate diarrhea.

According to the experience of other people eating raw food, long lasting strong diarrhea may happen, is rare. Actually many people including followers of Aajonus Vonderplanitz have started to eat raw food and lived and continue to live many years without any problems with pathogens and parasites. Anyway, if you still catch long lasting diarrhea, don’t panic. Just treat it by using any known method (you may try my method as well, see ‘Adaptation‘ above).

Eventually it’s definitely better to have maybe a few diarrhea or other signs of adaptation at the beginning, continue to stay healthy on raw MFZC diet and enjoy life without diseases than live and suffer from a growing amount of chronic degenerative diseases and other health problems that plague you for the rest of your life.

Before you start (if you decide to try), please read all of Article 2 and Articles 1, 3, 4, 5, think about the advice and recommendations from the articles and feel free to ask questions if something is unclear for you.

Changes made by using the MFZC diet

After the adaptation, my overall health has been improving gradually. Most of the amount of improvement happened during the first year of being on the MFZC diet.

I have started to have mostly a good mood, feeling more alive, better sleep (no insomnia at all), good lightness in the body, my memory stopped diminishing and improved.

My mind has increased clarity, became more organised and my mental and physical reactions became faster (just a truthful but not politically correct opinion: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRRdexcWO9Y&t=135s&fbclid=IwAR0cjU2Z_W_muLCli15e_P11P7NUu50y6wTAgqEpR6ZGhne9q6CYJALDsHE).

I don’t have any headaches or diseases anymore!

My immunity has become stronger and if I have any any damage, poisoning or wounds, they recover faster (see Article 5).

For long periods of time I can be around people who have the cold or flu  and yet stay healthy and not contaminated.

The moderate cough bothering me during morning hours daily has gradually disappeared (I got it when I tested diets with large amounts of sweet fruits and green juices).

I have become more resistant to cold and hot temperatures.

My back pain, which would last a few days at a time after lifting something very heavy, stopped occurring after half a year of the diet because the back muscles became more proportional and strong. I will add that with the MFZC diet your muscles may start to grow and adjust according to your genetically predisposed body type even if you are not active or do not exercise. If you do exercise, the shape of your body can change according to your chosen plan. 

My joints don’t have any pain and aren’t swollen anymore and they have become more flexible without any exercise. (Now I exercise but not regularly. I don’t see too much sense in having a mountain of muscles or to run 10 miles every day on behalf of health if I already have quite good health and live without diseases at all.) Just additional interesting information – https://medicalxpress.com/news/2018-08-fittest-middle-aged-athletes-outrun-cardiovascular.html

Small red spots, acne, and pimples on my body and face have disappeared (https://drhyman.com/blog/2011/02/11/do-milk-and-sugar-cause-acne/#close). 

My skin has become better and it has less wrinkles (https://www.escardio.org/Congresses-&-Events/ESC-Congress/Congress-resources/Congress-news/link-between-forehead-wrinkles-and-cardiovascular-death). Many brown (liver) related to aging spots that were on my body and most keratomas on my head have disappeared.

On my face I have had a big thick flat grey mole that appeared during my experiments with diets. After about year being on the MFZC diet the mole has started to crack and fell offAlso small white lipomas under the lower eyelids have disappeared (all other diets I have used before this diet just helped the mole and lipomas to grow up).

The process of balding on my head has stopped and my hair stopped graying more.

The feeling of being permanently thirsty, needing lots of water, and then making frequent visits to the bathroom has disappeared.

A hot unpleasant feeling inside the body after eating sweet fruits no longer happen because I don’t eat them anymore.

All of my allergies have vanished.

Past frequent constipation, diarrhea, heartburn and bloating do not appear anymore and I have a normal bowel movement mostly every day.

My gums and remaining teeth became clean, healthy and strong. The dental tartar does not appear anymore after being 1.5 year on the diet. I brush my teeth only with water and use dental floss. I don’t have bad breath anymore and it’s always fresh.

My sex drive and sexual abilities are increased.

I do not know how long I will have my great healthy condition, but I hope it may compare to that of healthy wild animals in nature. In the wild, if animals eat the species-appropriate, genetically proper raw food, they live without diseases and age significantly less visibly than humans do. The wild animals keep their health, energy, and strength until they die from natural causes.

This way of eating doesn’t decrease your spirituality and sensitivity as many vegans like to claim.

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My experience has been just the opposite. Moreover you may gradually start to have crystal clear thinking if you don’t overeat (overeating produces more fat in your body and it’s not useful load that the body needs to utilize or remove) and not eat any fermented food including fermented meat and fish (fermented food has many useful nutritious substances, it can make you high, but it also has a lot of bacteria and their toxic excrement (for example alcohol, neurotoxins, etc., see ‘Fermented food‘ in Article 4). Crystal clear thinking gives for example a good help to understand and explore the nature of things, people and yourself more deeply.

What kind of meat and fish were used

While mostly on the MFZC diet, I use and test the Costco fatty beef and the Superstore frozen wild salmon (https://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/study-confirms-farmed-salmon-more-toxic-than-wild-fish-1.477780,   http://goodfullness.net/farmed-salmon-one-toxic-foods-world-see-stop-eating/). The beef is mainly whole strip sirloin (5-7 kg pieces), I weight and cut it into daily portions. 2-3 of the portions I put in the fridge and eat in the first days. Leftovers are kept in the freezer for later use.

Freezing can break cells but doesn’t destroy nutrients. For example, eggs and sperm keep all their nutrients and are alive after proper unfreezing. Actually the nutrients are the complex organic molecules. Destroying or changing the spatial structure of even one of the molecules will make it simply impossible to return life to the eggs and sperm after proper unfreezing.

I eat two times a day. For a long time it was only one third of the daily portion in the morning and two thirds in the evening (if this portion was frozen, I put it in the fridge in the evening for the next day). The next evening portion I return to the fridge until the next evening. Now I eat 700-800g daily portions – half in the morning and half in the evening.

4.-2018.07.-Dinner or breakfast—     Raw fatty sirloin divided into more fatty and less fatty pieces – cut into 1/2 inch bite-sized pieces. A pile of more fatty pieces is over less fatty pieces.

The wild salmon I usually eat 400-500g 2-3 times a week in the morning (instead of the morning portion of meat). I eat its body without organs, I defrost, rinse and cut the body in to 2-3 inch pieces. I use a knife and hands to peel off the salmon skin. When you cut fish or meat always hold the sharp edge of the knife away from your fingers.

3.-2018.07.-Breakfast 2-3 times a week—  A meal of wild, raw salmon

Meat and fish should be always served as separate dishes and at different times of the day. Also give at least 2-3 hours between the dishes. Usually I eat the same amount of food daily at almost the same time and don’t think about it. The body and brain can accustom to these changes quite easily during some period of time. I start to get really hungry just before I start to eat. Eating every day the same optimal for me (my weight doesn’t change ) amount of food except days when I have significantly bigger physical, emotional or mental loading, gives me some advantages. My brain has a big relief from many thoughts related to food and accordingly increases its abilities for other kinds of activity. My organs and their functions work more stably and in coordination, especially if I eat at almost the same time.

Also for me it’s quite enough and satisfying to eat only raw meat and raw fish without organs (toxins that the body can’t quickly remove usually are collected in the organs). Salt and spices I haven’t used since 2007 (see ‘Test on salt‘ in Article 4 – https://rawdiets.wordpress.com/article-4-testing-and-influence-of-other-products/). Food is just fuel, not entertainment. To make your food more affordable you may buy fat trimmings separately from more cheap lean meat and eat them together.

Advantages of raw food

Why the raw MFZC diet is better than the cooked ZC diets?  Raw meat/fish gives stronger immunity, gradually increases the production of more concentrated stomach acid (HCl), breaks itself down with its own enzymes, digests faster and more easily by help of the stomach acid. Once raw meat/fish made contact with the HCl, hydrogen ions from the acid immediately starts permeating their cells, destroying the cells’ lysosomes and releasing the powerful enzymes within. Those enzymes get straight to work, digesting meat/fish body-the very body of which they were the part. Working together, the acid and meat/fish own enzymes are able to completely digest it.

In the case of cooked meat/fish, its enzymes had been destroyed by heat, and thus the stomach acid can only affect the external tissues of meat/fish. When the acid is chemically exhausted, that is the end of its help in the digestive process.

Actually genetically we aren’t designed for cooked food and many years of evolution did not adapt us to cooked food completely. For more information you can read here:   https://rawdiets.wordpress.com/article/https://rawdiets.wordpress.com/raw-food-is-self-destructive/ , https://rawdiets.wordpress.com/the-pottenger-experiments/.   If you are afraid of parasite contamination, you may eat defrosted meat and fish (naturally parasites prefer to stay and live inside people who eat cooked and processed food). More information is here: https://rawdiets.wordpress.com/parasites-do-not-like-raw-food/

Distilled water

Water is the second (maybe the first) most important vital component to build perfect health. Many toxins including pesticides and herbicides that we consume with modern food are mostly water-soluble. People who understand that and drink enough water have better chances to be healthy in the old age.

In the field of  medicine the medics and biochemists use only distilled water to prepare solutions for their research. They know that if they prepare the solutions by using tap water even having small natural amounts of different salts, the results of their experiments and tests can be changed, different and wrong.

Influence of the small amounts of salts can’t be so good for you too especially if you drink well, spring or tap water having high levels of mineralization. In spite of our ac-customization to low natural water mineralization, most biochemical reactions in the cells and around them need pure water (distilled water is the best) for their best fulfillment (see additional information in ‘Beverages‘, Article 4 ). If you drink tap, spring or well water, check its level of mineralization. If the level of mineralization is high, for the long term it’s better to drink at least boiled water.

I use pure distilled water. I make it in a 4 liter home distiller. I drink 2-3 liters a day (you may drink as much water as you want but do not drink during eating and drink after 2-3 hours of eating food). I have been drinking distilled water since 2007 (I changed my drinking water to distilled water gradually during a few months).

During thousands of years a lot of people living in dry areas or in the North drink water that is equal to distilled water (rainwater or water made from melted snow). They don’t have any specific health problems related with water. People living in other areas with water having a high level of mineralization often have more hardened blood vessels and may have related health problems. More information about the distilled water is here:  http://aquariusthewaterbearer.com/doctors-and-experts/.

ADDITIONAL SIMPLE TESTING OF THE MFZC DIET

Testing the regulation of the body weight on the MFZC diet

This test was during the last 3 months of 2017. I tested a case to regulate my weight (I’m quite slim – 70 kg weight and 180 cm tall). I increased my daily portion of meat to 1200g (400g morning and 800g evening portions). In a few months my weight was significantly increased. My body started to look more fat than slim. I definitely didn’t like it and decreased the amount of meat gradually to 600g (200g morning and 400g evening portions). My weight has been returned to my normal (slim). Now I eat 700-800g daily portions – half at the morning and half at the evening.

I didn’t test the quantity of fish in one portion. Also I didn’t test different fat/protein ratios but I always choose more fatty pieces when I buy beef.

THE NOTICEABLE CHANGES WHEN I WAS ON THE 1200G PORTION WERE: increased body weight, decreased speed of physical and mental reactions, increased desire to sleep after eating and a more lazy condition during the day. CONCLUSION: it’s quite easy to regulate weight on the MFZC diet, it’s better to not overeat even if you are on a very healthy diet.

Testing the size of meat pieces for eating

This test was during spring of 2017. It was tested with raw fat ground beef that I used to eat before I did the test, and with raw fat beef that was cut into half-inch pieces (I started to eat this beef after the test). I made 2 piles of meat – one was from ground meat, the other was from cut meat. On the top of the piles I made cavities and poured some water into them. In the cut meat pile all water soaked in immediately. In the ground meat pile, the soaking in took up to 40 sec. Raw fat ground meat behaves as a piece of dense wet clay. In the stomach fat ground meat can delay digestion because meat and fat particles stick together into a big piece and interrupt fast soaking of the stomach acid. Probably you may also use a mixture of raw lean ground meat (which is more cheap) and raw fat cut into small pieces.

After this test I use only cut meat. Usually I cut meat and its fat into half inch pieces and eat the fat first (the feeling of satisfaction comes faster). If some pieces are difficult to chew, just swallow them. They digest very good and meat and fat doesn’t need to be chewed for a long time. THE NOTICEABLE CHANGES WERE: feeling of heaviness in the stomach after eating becomes much lighter, meat digests faster and the bowel movements are more regular, the desire to sleep after eating is less. CONCLUSION: it’s better to not eat ground meat.

It’s interesting that the same conclusion was had by Dr. H. L. Newbold and his patients (https://zerocarbzen.com/2015/05/04/dr-h-l-newbold-on-ground-meat/). He had an opposite explanation about the harmful influence of the ground meat (that it digests faster). …It’s possible to check precisely which explanation is more correct but is it worth it to do if the conclusion is same?

Test on amount of the fish on MFZC diet

This test was done during September of 2017. I tested eating fish every morning instead of meat. After about 1 week I started to have some changes. THE NOTICEABLE CHANGES WERE: feeling more hungry (in spite of eating quite big portions of the fish) all day before the evening meat meal, decreasing the clarity of mind. CONCLUSION: big amounts of fish (maybe the influence of mercury?) are not good on the MFZC diet. Small amounts of fish (moderate portions of fish 2-3 times a week) gives some additional nutrition and essential trace elements making the diet more stable and able to satisfy better.

Testing the necessity of fish in the MFZC diet

This test was done during the winter months of 2017. I tested the MFZC diet without the fish. For about a month I didn’t feel any difference if compared with the full MFZC diet. Later I started to have some changes. THE NOTICEABLE CHANGES WERE: craving to eat other products, feeling that something was missing, feeling unsatisfied and decreasing the good lightness in the body. CONCLUSION: It’s better to keep fish in the MFZC diet. Moreover wild raw sea fish has vital fatty acids including Omega 3 and essential trace elements that terrestrial meat does not have enough of at the present times (see ‘Advantages of MFZC diet and pure water’ in Article 1).

 

22 thoughts on “Article 2. MY EXPERIENCE WITH RAW MEAT AND RAW FISH DIET

  1. How long do you have to Wait before eating When you have ingested water?

    Im usually hungry waking up, Also thirsty, drink first and Wait 15 minutes then eat?

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  2. Usually I eat around 12 noon first time (1 year ago I ate at 7 am). Before eating I drink water 3-4 times (all about 1 liter). After eating I don’t drink about 3 hours. Before my second meal around 7 pm I drink water 2-4 times (all about 1 liter as well). Last time I drink about 0.5 liter water 20-30 minutes before I go to sleep. Often I don’t wait 15 minutes after drinking water to start to eat. I don’t think I’ve found the best variant, it’s just more convenient for me.

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    1. Three questions, if you have the time…
      I’m wondering what time you go to sleep and wake up, and if you think it’s beneficial to allow time to digest before sleeping.
      Also, what is the approximate weight of your food portions?
      Finally, does freezing your meat/fish affect the enzymes contained within that help with digestion?
      Thank you for the helpful info 😀

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      1. I go to sleep at about 12 and wake up at about 7 morning (I don’t think it’s an optimal or best time and hours). Yes, it’s beneficial to have 3 or more hours to digest before sleeping. You sleep and feel better.
        Now I eat 700-800g daily portions – half at the morning and half at the evening.
        I didn’t notice any significant difference in the influence of fresh meat or previously frozen meat. It doesn’t mean the difference not exist. It always better to eat fresh (if you have a possibility) after about half a year of being on raw ZC diet.
        Thank you for your questions. Actually any questions help me to correct, edit or renew my article and make it more clear and understandable for the readers (the article is ‘living’).

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  3. Thank you for reply, I’ve been on this diet for a few days. At first my stomach was flat, and good. But now I’m noticing some bloating and constipation. What to do?

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    1. If you are on only raw MFZC diet and on only pure water, do nothing. It’s adaptation. Remember don’t drink water during eating and 3 and, maybe, more hours after eating.

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  4. Hi, thanks for sharing. You wrote:

    “The dental tartar does not appear anymore after being 1.5 year on the diet.”

    To clarify, how many months into a raw ZC diet did it take until tartar stopped? Low carb and ZC diets are known to cause tartar, which may be from a lack of osteoclacin in the saliva. Many use K2 to remedy this. I am interested to hear your comments as I am dealing with this now (I am one year water only beef and fish ZC, but now exclusively raw, this I will try).

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  5. Thanks. You also write about the differences between ground vs diced meat chunks. It is interesting and I will test this out as well. However, I am not inclined to separate fat and lean, as our ancestors would not have done this – have you given thought to this contradiction? Certainly our ancestors would not have meat grinders so the logic you have there makes sense, but if I buy a fatty piece of meat like short ribs, why not just cut it into small pieces and eat without separating fat and lean, have you tried this?

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    1. If you eat fat first, you feel satisfied with food faster than when you eat all together. Our ancestors had life very different from ours, they’ve been survived.

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  6. Hi, do you eat the skin of the salmon raw? The skin has many of the most beneficial nutrients, but I have not eaten it raw, just the flesh.

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  7. No, I don’t eat the skin but in the future probably will do a separate test on influence of fish skin. Maybe somebody else will do it and share the results.

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  8. Salmon roe is very nutrient dense but in my country they are salted and in olive oil. Do you think salt and olive oil mask the benefit of salmon roe and should I clean salt and oil before consuming it? If yes how can I clean?

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